Russian Declassified Video

Who would have guessed the Russians to be the one's to 'go first'. Grin. Ok. Kewl beans.


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Russian Navy Releases UFO Files

Russian Navy Releases UFO Files
July 22, 2009

The Russian navy has declassified its records of encounters with unidentified objects technologically surpassing anything humanity ever built, reports Svobodnaya Pressa news website.

The records dating back to soviet times were compiled by a special navy group collecting reports of unexplained incidents delivered by submarines and military ships. The group was headed by deputy Navy commander Admiral Nikolay Smirnov, and the documents reveal numerous cases of possible UFO encounters, the website says.

Vladimir Azhazha, former navy officer and a famous Russian UFO researcher, says the materials are of great value.

“Fifty percent of UFO encounters are connected with oceans. Fifteen more – with lakes. So UFOs tend to stick to the water,” he said.

On one occasion a nuclear submarine, which was on a combat mission in the Pacific Ocean, detected six unknown objects. After the crew failed to leave behind their pursuers by maneuvering, the captain ordered to surface. The objects followed suit, took to the air, and flew away.

Many mysterious events happened in the region of Bermuda Triangle, recalls retired submarine commander Rear Admiral Yury Beketov. Instruments malfunctioned with no apparent reason or detected strong interference. The former navy officer says this could be deliberate disruption by UFOs.

Vladimir Kremlev for RT. Click to enlarge “On several occasions the instruments gave reading of material objects moving at incredible speed. Calculations showed speeds of about 230 knots, of 400 kph. Speeding so fast is a challenge even on the surface. But water resistance is much higher. It was like the objects defied the laws of physics. There’s only one explanation: the creatures who built them far surpass us in development,” Beketov said.Navy intelligence veteran, Captain 1st rank Igor Barklay comments:

“Ocean UFOs often show up wherever our or NATO’s fleets concentrate. Near Bahamas, Bermudas, Puerto Rico. They are most often seen in the deepest part of the Atlantic Ocean, in the southern part of the Bermuda Triangle, and also in the Caribbean Sea.”

Another place where people often report UFO encounters is Russia’s Lake Baikal, the deepest fresh water body in the world. Fishermen tell of powerful lights coming from the deep and objects flying up from the water.

In one case in 1982 a group of military divers training at Baikal spotted a group of humanoid creatures dressed in silvery suits. The encounter happened at a depth of 50 meters, and the divers tried to catch the strangers. Three of the seven men died, while four others were severely injured.

“I think about underwater bases and say: why not? Nothing should be discarded,” says Vladimir Azhazha. “Skepticism is the easiest way: believe nothing, do nothing. People rarely visit great depths. So it’s very important to analyze what they encounter there.”

Source:
http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-07-21/Russian_Navy_UFO_records_say_aliens_love_oceans.html

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A Call For Information: Warp Drive Engine

This is a request for additional information on theoretical, hypothetical or otherwise information on Alcubierre Drive or related hyperspace engine design and related information.

"Professor Jochem Hauser, one of the scientists who put forward the idea, told The Scotsman that if everything went well a working engine could be tested in about five years. " http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=16902006

Such a drive, "manipulates magnetic fields at such an intensity, that it can achieve, theoretically (hence its name) the results ....which warps space, pulling a craft at such speed that it can break the light barrier without violating the theory of relativity." exopolitical researcher Ed Komarek.

The information may come from online, public or private sources. Book recommendations welcome too.

Greer To Speak in Denver on June 18 2009

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CSETI Member Contact, Australia 2001PRESS RELEASE

DISCLOSURE PROJECT

FOUNDER TO SPEAK

IN DENVER
CSETI Crop Circle, UK 1992

Steven M. Greer MD, founder and director of The Disclosure Project (www.DisclosureProject.org) will be speaking in Denver in the Turnhalle Room at the Tivoli Student Union building on the Auraria Campus on Thursday, June 18, 2009 from 7:30 to 10:00 pm.
Dr. Greer launched the world-wide Disclosure movement to end UFO secrecy and is currently advising members of Congress, foreign heads of state, and figures very close to the Obama Administration on how to best control currently illegal classified projects related to UFOs. These projects, which are embedded within a number of military, intelligence and corporate operations, have been managed without the oversight of Congress or the President of the United States since at least the late 1950s.

At his keynote address in Denver on June 18, 2009, Dr. Greer will review past briefings with world leaders and outline current Disclosure Project initiatives to brief those in Washington and other world capitals on the UFO subject.
Dr. Greer has provided briefings for the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Director of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many members of Congress, among others. For the most part, these senior leaders have been systematically denied access to projects connected to the UFO subject.

Dr. Greer states, “These projects have been managed illegally for over 50 years and as such constitute a grave threat to our US national security. The central reason for the secrecy is directly connected to the corrupti"

Information In Support of Human Extraterrestrials

Something of interest from Ed Komarek

Interesting little syncronism here Michael. Notice reference in this MJ 12 document to the human genus existing on other planatary systems. I think it would be useful to quote this as more information in support of Human extraterrestrials. Ed
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/twining_whitehotreport.pdf

Military Hush-Up: Incoming Space Rocks Now Classified

Military Hush-Up: Incoming Space Rocks Now Classified
By Leonard David
SPACE.com's Space Insider Columnist
posted: 10 June 2009
05:35 pm ET
Space.com
(see link above for links in article)

For 15 years, scientists have benefited from data gleaned by U.S. classified satellites of natural fireball events in Earth's atmosphere – but no longer.

A recent U.S. military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by hush-hush government spacecraft of incoming bolides and fireballs are classified secret and are not to be released, SPACE.com has learned.

The satellites' main objectives include detecting nuclear bomb tests, and their characterizations of asteroids and lesser meteoroids as they crash through the atmosphere has been a byproduct data bonanza for scientists.

The upshot: Space rocks that explode in the atmosphere are now classified.

"It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change," said one scientist familiar with the work. "It's unfortunate because there was this great synergy...a very good cooperative arrangement. Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable change in policy."

Scientists say not only will research into the threat from space be hampered, but public understanding of sometimes dramatic sky explosions will be diminished, perhaps leading to hype and fear of the unknown.

Incoming!

Most "shooting stars" are caused by natural space debris no larger than peas. But routinely, rocks as big as basketballs and even small cars crash into the atmosphere. Most vaporize or explode on the way in, but some reach the surface or explode above the surface. Understandably, scientists want to know about these events so they can better predict the risk here on Earth.

Yet because the world is two-thirds ocean, most incoming objects aren't visible to observers on the ground. Many other incoming space rocks go unnoticed because daylight drowns them out.

Over the last decade or so, hundreds of these events have been spotted by the classified satellites. Priceless observational information derived from the spacecraft were made quickly available, giving researchers such insights as time, a location, height above the surface, as well as light-curves to help pin down the amount of energy churned out from the fireballs.

And in the shaky world we now live, it's nice to know that a sky-high detonation is natural versus a nuclear weapon blast.

Where the space-based surveillance truly shines is over remote stretches of ocean – far away from the prospect of ground-based data collection.

But all that ended within the last few months, leaving scientists blind-sided and miffed by the shift in policy. The hope is that the policy decision will be revisited and overturned.

Critical importance

"The fireball data from military or surveillance assets have been of critical importance for assessing the impact hazard," said David Morrison, a Near Earth Object (NEO) scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center. He noted that his views are his own, not as a NASA spokesperson.

The size of the average largest atmospheric impact from small asteroids is a key piece of experimental data to anchor the low-energy end of the power-law distribution of impactors, from asteroids greater than 6 miles (10 kilometers) in diameter down to the meter scale, Morrison told SPACE.com.

"These fireball data together with astronomical observations of larger near-Earth asteroids define the nature of the impact hazard and allow rational planning to deal with this issue," Morrison said.

Morrison said that fireball data are today playing additional important roles.

As example, the fireball data together with infrasound allowed scientists to verify the approximate size and energy of the unique Carancas impact in the Altiplano -- on the Peru-Bolivia border -- on Sept. 15, 2007.

Fireball information also played an important part in the story of the small asteroid 2008 TC3, Morrison said. That was the first-ever case of the astronomical detection of a small asteroid before it hit last year. The fireball data were key for locating the impact point and the subsequent recovery of fragments from this impact.

Link in public understanding

Astronomers are closing in on a years-long effort to find most of the potentially devastating large asteroids in our neck of the cosmic woods, those that could cause widespread regional or global devastation. Now they plan to look for the smaller stuff.

So it is ironic that the availability of these fireball data should be curtailed just at the time the NEO program is moving toward surveying the small impactors that are most likely to be picked up in the fireball monitoring program, Morrision said.

"These data have been available to the scientific community for the past decade," he said. "It is unfortunate this information is shut off just when it is becoming more valuable to the community interested in characterizing near Earth asteroids and protecting our planet from asteroid impacts."

The newly issued policy edict by the U.S. military of reporting fireball observations from satellites also caught the attention of Clark Chapman, a planetary scientist and asteroid impact expert at Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado.

"I think that this information is very important to make public," Chapman told SPACE.com.

"More important than the scientific value, I think, is that these rare, bright fireballs provide a link in public understanding to the asteroid impact hazard posed by still larger and less frequent asteroids," Chapman explained.

Those objects are witnessed by unsuspecting people in far-flung places, Chapman said, often generating incorrect and exaggerated reports.

"The grounding achieved by associating these reports by untrained observers with the satellite measurements is very useful for calibrating the observer reports and closing the loop with folks who think they have seen something mysterious and extraordinary," Chapman said.

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Leonard David has been reporting on the space industry for more than four decades. He is past editor-in-chief of the National Space Society's Ad Astra and Space World magazines and has written for SPACE.com since 1999.

Open Minds Forum News Brief 062009

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Crop Circles 1990 - 2009

New Swirled Order - Crop Circle Documentary

Wanted: A First Capitol of Earth?

A respondent (name withheld) in relation to ongoing talks at the UN regarding extraterrestrial contact & a human-to-human disclosure has posted an inquiry asking participants to make suggestions as to what location(s) we think are good considerations for talks with ETs. The question was posted today at 4:25pm mst at: http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=unitednations&action=display&thread=5761&page=1

I suggested that they seriously consider cities in which Olympic Games have been hosted. The working theory being that such a city would theoretically have both experience and infrastructure still available to hand the massive influx of visitors as well as have access to diverse facilities such as were available during the Olympic Games.

Obama's Nellis AF Trip

Obama visited Nellis AF base back around May 27 , 2009. It is interesting to note the following items were inconjunction or at least close proximity with the event: Renewable energy initiative promotion, a dinner hosted by Steven Spielberg, & a highly successful Nevada Solar One near Boulder City. It is conceivable that one or more of the factions involved in the contact control structure will be reaching out to Obama to brief him on their version of the paradigm...one might hazard that the trip could have been an optimal opportunity to do so or at least evaluate him for a future action on it.

Crop Circle Season 2009

Purpose and Reason in Conceptual Communications

Purpose and Reason in Conceptual Communications
By Cyrellys Geibhendach
05/21/09
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My Website: Compass Morainn

Communication examination on the subject of extraterrestrials and contact has been and still is a critical need in current human reality. When we pause to consider that in the last hundred years our population explosion, our use of electricity and mechanical devices, including nuclear technology, as well as our many forms of broadcast communications, we have literally ‘lit up’ our world. It is akin to setting up a digital billboard in your front yard advertising your presence. Therefore it can be theorized that the matter of Extra-terrestrial Contact is a subject which if we don’t go to the trouble of immersing ourselves in before-hand, it will come home to roost literally over our heads eventually, unexpected, into a population unsettled by its complete surprise to the event.

Beyond the obvious discussions engaged in the subject matter within Exopolitics, Ufology, and Science Fiction Literature, who else has made early efforts at broaching this topic? And what is its importance to Exopolitical Mediation? A recent article from a website in the exopolitical field specializing in exopsychology has examined the sparse address of the subject and notes the following:

“Theologians take the prize for being first off the mark, for having had lengthy discussions about the existence of extraterrestrials, and possible contact scenarios. Their work has been so extensive that it deserves a separate entry,” [1} – Michael Gintowt.

Mr. Gintowt, a notable psychologist delving into exopsychology, has published another remarkable article on his blog: Exopsychology In the article titled “Exoisms: foreshadowing of a New Age, or macro-egoism?” he examines the “trailblazers who have considered the implications of contact with an Intelligent Extraterrestrial Race (ET).” He explores his interest in the meaning and relevance of visionary extensions into an uncertain future and considers how the strength of our collective vanity as a race may hinder us in our conceptual explorations of contact scenarios. For all those interested in the mechanics involved in exopolitical mediation, I highly recommend this article for it gives due consideration to the baggage which all participants, including the Mediator, his or herself, can and will bring to the communications table.

Our examinations of contact scenarios are forms of conceptual communications or if you prefer, preparations for experiential communications in which the concepts or abstract notions and mental impressions of contact scenarios are played out in practice. These surface from our collective understanding of reality, incorporating endless ideas of what ET life might exist as, and then are experimented with for their logic and potentialities. Within these scenarios are enmeshed contact mythologies and sometimes even the asserted Contact Experience. Michael rightly explores our psychological reasonings, aspirations, and pursuit of “uncertain patterns”.

After relating a number of examples, he goes on to say, “that the evidence (for contact) is not crystal clear, unambiguous, and simple to behold. It is fuzzy, vague, incomplete, and a perfect backdrop for the projection of our mental contents.”

Now how do these explorations benefit exopolitical mediation? What does this understanding of evidence for contact as ambiguous or incomplete, bring to the communication table or the application of a mediator skills? Of what use is conceptual communications on the subject of Contact to exopolitical mediation? This is where I think we revitalize how we look at communication. ”Looking at communication, not just through it to see how it affects other things, gives us a way of thinking about the events and objects of the social world that differs substantially from the modernistic way of thinking. Our attention is drawn to wholes rather than parts; to dynamics rather than substances; to reflectivity rather than linear relations; and to interactions rather than single actions,” [2] W. Barnett Pearce, School of Human and Organization Development, Fielding Graduate University.

The conceptual communications within the dynamics of Exopolitics or those built during mediation or even others presented complete through the direct contact experiencer, gives us the ability to closely examine the root context within which the information originates for the purpose of deep understanding of the communications and participants involved. It will likely be a conglomeration of the participants and experiencer’s interpretations and the source intent of their experience. Context in exopolitical mediation includes but is not limited to, the experiencer’s and participants’ culture, their psychological state, their educational and life experience level, and their personal mythos of individual existence…so too will it also include the level of ability, type and style of communication, and intents on the part of the extra-terrestrial contacting party, as well as a whole series of contextual ranges on the part of the receiving public who is without doubt a theoretical if not actual participant in the mediation circle. An in-depth examination of context is very important to facilitating the mediator’s understanding of the participants involved in the mediation. This examination of context allows us to delineate the actual identity of participants in the mediation circle.

It is in my mind to suggest that it may be worthy for exopolitical mediators to look, within the context, at the instigator of both our own ‘mental contents’ and that of our participants various ‘mental contents’, the oh so infamous ego, as another participant to the mediation circle. The ego inserts its own purposes and needs and therefore may transcend or overtake the communication process, intent, or specific content. By placing the ego within its own category as a participant we give ourselves awareness of its presence and It, its own voice, so that we can therefore gain an opportunity to separate it from the originating source of individual communications.

What is ego? Is it a true representation of us? When we stop to consider ego in our lives, most of us would say no, that is not truly us, not deep down because we have separated what we tend to fall into existentially from what we think of ourselves as mentally, and what we expect or strive for ourselves to be. The pressure to conform to our human ego is very great. Our egos are wrapped up in our social perception of societal expectations which are both extrinsic, concerning relationships of our social groups, and intrinsic, concerning our own behavior, opinions, issues, values, and goals as expected by ourselves or of us by our social groups. The ego is a construct of all these things and does not always adhere to what we really believe or value in ourselves or others.

The exopolitical mediator can use the delineation and identification of ego in the scope of examining conceptual communications and their contexts to increase his or her ‘interpersonal linkage power '[3]. This power is the mediator's ability based on their perceived influence with people who control psychological or social resources within a participatory group. This power is necessary to developing a group culture among participants where a collective personality and point of view or understanding is negotiated by the members (participants) of the mediation group; in whatever way those participants are defined in the mediation process.

In closing I offer a reference to conceptual communications, in which Michael Gintowt refers to speculation about ETs, giving it a definition as, “about attempting to lead the way into the future, to break new ground, to innovate, to find meaning in work, and contribute by asking questions, as opposed to furnishing answers – which is a good thing, because excellent science is based on asking the right questions.”

[Congratulations go to the theologians for taking the initiative to be among the trail-blazers, those who dove in first.]



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[1] Exopsychology, “Exoisms: foreshadowing of a New Age, or macro-egoism?”, Michael Gintowt, 2009

[2] TOWARD COMMUNICATIVE VIRTUOSITY: A MEDITATION ON MODERNITY AND OTHER FORMS OF COMMUNICATION© W. Barnett Pearce, 2005, School of Human and Organization Development, Fielding Graduate University

[3] Creating Competent Communications, Yoder, Hugenberg, Wallace, Kendall/Hunt Publishing Company, 1996, page 326.

Discerning Conduits of Influence and Communication in Exopolitical Mediation

Discerning Conduits of Influence and Communication in Exopolitical Mediation
By Cyrellys Geibhendach
May 20, 2009

In Exopolitical Mediation, communication among parties rarely occurs within a typical mediation setting. In mainstream typical mediation, individual participants meet directly with the mediator first individually and then collectively in an agreed upon location. In Exopolitical Mediation the mediator may be directly involved in only one of the participants but provides avenues of information exchange to the public, among other participants, and among other exopolitical conduits. Connection with the public, for example, can range in its extensiveness from a simple release of a report on the internet to the more involved release of a book with corresponding interviews and other promotional activities. Exopolitical Mediation in this way immediately deviates from typical traditional forms of Mediation. However there remains universal aspects to it such as confidentiality of the participants. This makes some of the mechanics of exopolitical mediation unique in the general field of mediation.

Exopolitical Mediation currently occurs in a setting where the Mediator may administer contact with a paradigm participant or source, who holds a perceived position of purposeful leadership in or for that particular release. This does not mean that all communication within the mediation case occurs in conduit through the Mediator. Often the Mediator represents only one avenue of communication and networks in the open with other conduits which may well vary in nature. An example of a variant of conduit can be seen in a release of a recent article in the NY Times, entitled “A Climate Solution That’s Out Of This World”[1]. This variant is a unspecific non-mediated example under the understanding within Exopolitics that the mainstream media outlets are heavily controlled and restricted from serious publication of information or dialog on the subject of extra-terrestrial contact. So for such a release as the one referenced to occur, a sanction to communicate under specific conditions is assumed to have been given. This defines the article as a representation of communication from an additional conduit in an environment still engulfed in secrecy and non-disclosure orientation.

Recognizing additional conduits in a multi-factional environment is a problematic issue for Exopolitical Mediators. Most of this problem can be mitigated by having an understanding of the current exopolitical condition which includes continually evolving evaluative analysis of the existential evidence of a contact control structure. Exopolitical Mediators try to balance their understanding of the exopolitical condition through extensive reading and networking with other exopoliticians. Through these forms of self-education the productive and destructive strategies used by the contact paradigm constituents becomes apparent. An effective Exopolitical Mediator develops his or her ability to ‘listen carefully for’ other conduits within the paradigm. “In the most general sense, we have communication whenever one system, a source, influences another, the destination, by manipulation of alternative signals which can be transferred over the channel connecting them,” Osgood.[2]

The variety and necessity of obscure communication conduits arose out of the inherent or perceived needs of the parties behind them, in the pervasive secrecy climate of the last sixty odd years. The contact paradigm has carried the highest level of secrecy status possible within the United States as far as government and its contact paradigm extensions have been concerned. This has caused a fractured and multi-factional situation whereas the realms (social worlds) of pro and non-disclosure are again broken into many portions which continue fractional existence in many compartmentalized sub-groups. The extent of sub-groupment is not fully known at this time but releasing sources have routinely described the compartmental nature of the contact control structure and the confusing web of geopolitical inter-relationships which have grown so complex as to defy rational explanations or descriptions. These inter-relations compete with each other on many levels and spill over into the public presence where they are taken up and mirrored by open humanity in its opinions, and aggressive competing behaviors.

It is important for the Exopolitical Mediator to be aware of the variety and subtleness of communication forms and conduits in order to understand the various social worlds which lie within the contact paradigm. When the mediator understand the social worlds involved then it becomes possible to understand the various survival strategies and goals which pervade them. The Exopolitical Mediator comes face to face with these strategies and goals in life changing ways and must work among them to achieve cohesion of the participants in the evolutionary environment of potential human disclosure. “If we believe that the way we communicate makes the social world in which we live, and that these forms of communication make different social worlds, then it follows that, if we are to accept our responsibility for making the kind of social world in which we want to live and which we want to bequeath to our grandchildren, we should develop our ability to discern, differentiate, and selectively call into being preferred forms of communication,” W. Barnett Pearce.[3]

There are many types of survival strategies which are associated with the forces behind individual conduits. The nature of the individual strategies involved, also vary in the perceptibility of their existential natures. It is up to the mediator to be discerning to every extent possible to comprehend those natures. Some of the strategies encountered will be either pro-disclosure nature or non-disclosure nature with contents that range among conflict avoidance strategies, competitive conflict strategies, and cooperative strategies. It is the responsibility of the exopolitical mediator to focus on the process by which he is managing his interaction with these strategies and to try to avoid getting caught up in the conflict generating potential some of them have. The exopolitical mediator is not there wage a war but is there to assist the participants to communicate, establish connection and interaction, and to help them find their acceptable avenues for future development of collective options, goals, and common ground.

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[1] Exopolitical Conduit Release Example: A climate solution that's out of this world,
by Anne C Mulkern, published: May 14, 2009
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%....de5f4856a800385

[2] Communication for Social Change Anthology: Historical and Contemporary Readings, A Farewell to Aristotle “Horizontal Communication”, Lewis Ramiro Beltrain, 1979, (SOME TERMS AND ASSOCIATED MEASURES FOR TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATION, Charles E Osgood, (Urbana, Illinois, Institute For Communications Research 1961) pg 48,) pg 158,
http://books.google.com/booksid=85WbPmx9QlcC&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=percieving+communication,&source=bl&ots=6BGLQatRbP&sig=krL_ZSeeX344i9EmJSmtNLcl9QE&hl=en&ei=ATwUSunGBKCc8QTl-5CKBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#PPA158,M1

“In the most general sense, we have communication whenever one system, a source, influences another, the destination, by manipulation of alternative signals which can be transferred over the channel connecting them.” Osgood. Pg 158

[3] TOWARD COMMUNICATIVE VIRTUOSITY: A MEDITATION ON MODERNITY AND OTHER FORMS OF COMMUNICATION © W. Barnett Pearce, 2005, School of Human and Organization Development, Fielding Graduate University, http://www.humiliationstudies.org/documents/PearceCommunicativeVirtuosity.pdf

“If we believe that the way we communicate makes the social world in which we live, and that these forms of communication make different social worlds, then it follows that, if we are to accept our responsibility for making the kind of social world in which we want to live and which we want to bequeath to our grandchildren, we should develop our ability to discern, differentiate, and selectively call into being preferred forms of communication.” Pearce, Pg 20

Regarding Control, Influence, & Excellence; Pertinent Information for Exopolitical Mediators

Regarding Control, Influence, & Excellence; Pertinent Information for Exopolitical Mediators
by Cyrellys GeibhendachFriday,
May 15, 2009

I am going to wax more philosophical for a moment to deep the external and personal context within which Exopolitical Mediators operate. This examines the effect of human control and human influence and their contributional values. So to does it delve into the philosophy of the pursuit of excellence and how the concepts of control and influence are regarded.

Our control in this life, I think is limited in many ways but our Influence is not. If we continue on a chosen ethical path then we will remain limited in our control for quite sometime in many respects, because the honoring of Free Will is a part of being ethical. But as we, the human race, progress in our existential explorations we will come to realize that the long-term benefits of ethical choices gives us exponential leaps in Influence. We cannot force anyone human or otherwise to believe or fully understand something....but we can Influence them to be self-empowered to progress in their own way.

As our Influential ability grows it reverberates throughout our own people bringing a potential toward briliance of self...this is the positive outcome of chosing ethical paths...it far outweighs and out-distances any usefulness of control. One day such a chosen path and skill of Influence could extend to create ourselves into an Influential Example for other races who may at that point be asking many of the same questions we ask about ourselves and extra-terrestrial races today....but we have to invest in our own self improvement first...this process of experiencing, learning and sharing is part of respecting Excellence in Life.

Why do some humans have a negative view of the world and everything which goes with it? Where does this dispondency come from? I think that is because humanity's moments of weakness have encompassed some individuals and groups more than others....their negative views are a consequence of the Human Race's areas of self neglect and therefore are self inflicted...as well as being a self-perpetuating consequence on an individual level once it has occured thus becoming a vicious cycle. Can this be changed? Certainly. But like anything worth doing it takes sometimes a great deal of effort and consistency.

I don't believe humans are more negative than positive....it think the perception of that is based solely on personal experience and just as dandilions will group in various and particular areas of a yard, so too does positive and negative natures...sometimes it is luck of the draw as to what we routinely encounter...sometimes it is an innate human need to address deep personal or spiritual issues and then work through them which brings us in contact once or repetatively with negativity. We don't yet conceptualize this clearly and firmly where we may then teach it to the next generations in order that they might better understand or percieve what themes they are involved in or why they manifest around or within our individual life circle.

This matter of what we teach of our Knowledge to the future generations and even the current ones is very much a subject of concern to the Exopolitical Mediator....from my own perspective and history, my ancestors both ancient and recent have always regarded Knowledge as sacred. So too is the possession of it a sacred trust. This sacred trust doesn't mean that Knowledge was intended to be kept sequestered among the priviledged few. It was once regarded that the Knowledge of our Race was a trust given to us by the "Gods" or "Ancients" and that to fail to teach it or pass it from generation to generation was a severe crime. There are three kinds of Knowledge: the Nature of each thing, the Cause of each thing, and the Influence of each thing. To seek to aquire knowledge of all things which is in its pure form, the effort to Understand, is a great part of respecting and pursuing Excellence. The other part of that is sharing the knowledge and wisdom earned.

Maturity comes from within...it is the assimilation of knowledge and its practical, ethical application by a person practicing Virtue and then its evolution and manifestation as Wisdom. To practice Virtue is to honor the rule of law, to be honest, and to be proud. Pride in this context is not an ill expressed behavior of dominance, instead it is both a depth of understanding of self worth, and also a confidence in self, which is then expressed in honorable character. When an individual can value one's self then so to are they then equipped to find the inherent truth and value in others. Many Christians, to give it a more familiar example for you, express this as loving themselves as God would love them so that in turn they may love and express love among others.

Is any of this positive nature or the negatives we tend to dwell on an inherent script within our DNA?....I don't think so. These wisdoms are universally part of our education to be individually discovered in this life. What I see inhibiting humanity at this time is their Communication Skills, and willingness to Share. They forget or fear or fail to understand that Sharing or Teaching what they learn is all a part of the whole process. Somewhere they have lost the skill or inclination to reach out with their life, their reality and integrate it with others in a contributional way. This lack of awareness and understanding is creating waves of self-inflicted fear, pain, and chaos which causes perpetuation of the problem. This is something which can be remedied. Someone must go first. Individuals must be willing to lead through example. This is why there is so much potential in the Contact Paradigm and all its facets of existential experience. It gives the opportunity for individuals to remedy this difficulty or inhibition I have described...the vicious cycle of negative circles can be broken....and a fresh paradigm of new choices for human potential laid out for perusal.

Mediator Neutrality Applied in Exopolitical Mediation

Mediator Neutrality Applied in Exopolitical Mediation
by Cyrellys Geibhendach
Friday, May 15, 2009

In traditional Mediation, mediator neutrality is the action of the mediator to remain neutral which means to not issue or imply judgment. A mediator seeks understanding rather than development of an opinion which results in judgment. This ability to be and remain neutral is incredibly important for success in traditional mediation. Rachel Fishman Green, Esq., describes the benefits of neutrality in the following way, “If I really understand how you are feeling, what this experience has done to you, what this means for you, the challenges that you are facing as you try to restructure your life – then I can help (others) understand these things. And I can also make sure that (what) we put together takes care of you and your needs.”

The same is applicable to Exopolitical Mediation. The participant or group and the inter-lying public which the Exopolitical Mediator works with has needs, hopes, and expectations just as participants in traditional mediation do. The human equation is no different in this respect and does indeed demand a voice to be heard and received seriously. The act of experiencing mediation is very powerful and can facilitate not only understanding but also changes to peoples goals and outlooks. This lays a tremendous burden of responsibility upon the Mediator to maintain a position of holistic caring service which is created when a mediator maintains neutrality.

Every individual experiences life from a perspective. That perspective will be a consequence of their knowledge, their experiences, their health, and their maturity. No other person is more appropriate to speak about their lives or their needs than themselves. In the Contact Paradigm the ability to communicate and be treated with dignity and respect is severely hampered by many layers of confusion, fears, illegitimate ridicule, inadequate knowledge and experience as well as the human tendency to compete or dominate. Mediation gives the opportunity for all voices to approach the human collective consciousness and be heard fairly in our reality.

An Exopolitical Mediator in remaining neutral does not judge and does their best to listen to everything that a participant or group has to say. The Mediator will ask questions to garner the best understanding of the information that he/she can. And the Mediator will assist in brainstorming to figure out how best to achieve a person's or group's needs. An Exopolitical Mediator will use all of the tools at their disposal to make sure that each party involved in the mediation HEARS the other.

One of the valuable skills a Mediator can apply is evaluating the communication of a participant to encourage improvements or additions which help prevent miscommunication. In Exopolitics the distance between the participant and the public audience, if that is the end recipient or alternate party in the mediation, can issue misconceptions or misconstrue the information or intents involved. The Mediator works to alleviate this known difficulty through experience & scope of paradigm awareness. Here again mediator neutrality comes into play, allowing the Mediator great flexibility of perception themselves.

A neutral mediator helps to improve communication by helping all parties or participants involved to understand where the other(s) are coming from. No party involved has to agree with the other(s) but it helps to understand why you disagree or where or why differences exist.

Mediators often feel great empathy for the participants. They not only perceive needs but they also perceive the emotions, challenges, and strength of personal investment involved in the participant's experiences, information, and existential position. The Mediator's job is to utilize this depth of their own perception to help all parties increase their understanding of each other and then to facilitate the best way for them to communicate or interact effectively. His or her greatest challenge is to understand everyone involved.

And the ultimate goal is the honest and honorable exchange of Truth.

An Invitation To Compass Morainn

When we talk about Exopolitics, we speak mostly of events or information about the mirad forms of extra-terrestrial contact. Rarely do we focus upon the individuals who bring us the events or information. These individuals come from a wide range of backgrounds some such as Contactees and Abductees from the public sector. Others such as Whistleblowers and sanctioned military or corporate releasers, step only far enough from the shadows to give indication that they exist but little more.

These varied individuals rarely come forward alone. Often they request assistence from researchers within the fields of exopolitics, ufology, conspiracy, and the many more formal sciences to reach out to the public world where the gift of the unknown can bear a heavy personal toll. The researchers and other service providers who interconnect with them are Exopolitical Mediators. They bridge the gaps between the functional daylight and the shadows of our reality. Working as a neutral third party, the exopolitical mediator assists one or more participants to reach out in a variety of ways amidst an uninformed public.

In an ever increasing disclosure oriented environment, this service has become crucial to the lives of many Contact experiencers. It gives them the ability to maintain their dignity and autonomy and provides a voice in the events, experiences, and interactions impacting not only their own lives but the broader global spectrum of the Contact Paradigm encompassing the peoples of Earth.

For over sixty years practicing exopolitical mediators have functioned alone, independently, rarely ever connecting with others in the same field for they were few and far between. Today with the explosion of the Exopolitical field of study, their ranks have swelled around the world. Yet still they have not had a network to call their own or resources to assist them in providing the service to humanity which they have taken unto themselves as their personal calling.

Today I would like to introduce you to the debut of that network. Compass Morainn is an association of Exopolitical Mediators, working to establish and improve this newly organizing field of service called Exopolitical Mediation, within the collaborative fields of Exopolitics, Sociology, Cultural-Anthropology, Psychology, History, Medicine, and Law. Their website is

http://compassmorainn.webs.com/

It is a new tool for exopolitical mediators with information pertinent to their trade, trade news, a member forum, website translation, and soon a dedicated database and blog for members publications on the subject. You are cordially invited to visit the Compass Morainn site and review information about Exopolitical Mediation and Mediators. The site is open to the public and membership for those interested in the field is free of charge.

Cyrellys Geibhendach

A Response to Discord Over Oathkeepers

The Service Men & Women of Oathkeepers are correct in their assessment. This country, its freedom, its quality of life, and its inherent Spirit is ALL in distress.

The majority of the public who does not understand this has not been paying attention. They assume that the system functions as it was designed to do. But the system has been usurped from the inside. International Corporations exert nearly totalitarian influence here along with a perminent shadow government which is a result of the continuity of government institution built by prior administrations. If you don't fully understand what I'm talking about I strongly suggest you go take a deep look at the Executive Orders list spanning back to the beginning (through multiple presidencies).

All of this is tied into the Contact Paradigm. To understand this you must consider that researchers percieve that there are two forms of this Corruption and MANY Factions. One form is very ancient and has been planning and working for a tremendously long time toward a One World Government/Control. The other is relatively new and grew out of the modern experience of Extra-terrestrial Contact. Both are corporate controlled/influenced but the latter has the potential to be an ETHICAL evolution toward a United Earth in which the US Constitution and all it stands for is not upsurped but restored in full and in which the sovereignty & cultures of other Countries remains intact through and after a process of open collaborative unification.

I don't believe we as a planet are quite ready for a world government....especially when the ancient corruption within has not been fully recognized and dealt with. Contact experienced as a peaceful Global Community would suffice is my personal opinion but many within politics in general think some form of unification for a representative Global Government can be done at this time. They are currently working on it.

However the people watch this carefully and if the institution of a police state within these United States of America is not ceased and desisted there WILL be trouble. Many are alarmed. There has for example been serious talk of ceding in both Texas and Montana, probably other places as well behind the scenes. Montana's legislature was in the news recently about that. People are not only alarmed about the recent state of affairs but are horrified....and becoming very affraid to talk about it. Did you know that the Fusion Centers popping up with their hands in the local law enforcement services do not report to the Governor of the State? They bypass the Governors office and report to the Federal Government. ALL of the public demonizing reports that have cropped up lately like the MIAC Report have been issued from the Feds. Do you 'own' a gun for any purpose? Well then you ARE on a list somewhere and are potentially a terrorist according to them....that really ought to be alarming to any sensible person. But you have been deliberately 'trained' to be complacent and addicted to controlled forms of adrenaline management like sports, action media, and distractions like interactive t.v...if you are too tired when you come home from work and are too wrapped up in basic day to day survival then you would be craving down time and have no inclination to pay much REAL attention to what is happening around you.

You have been taught that to protest anything is bad and an extreme behavior indicative of psychiatric shortcomings. The Elite long ago realized just how maleable the public is and they've been having a field day with you. Now they are looking at shutting down or transforming the one last resource which has yet eluded their full control...the internet.

How this near future evolves very much depends upon the many becomeing involved and most importantly AWARE. Forward movement toward a Global Government probably won't be stopped at this late date. And perhaps if Source A's people are fully accurate in their understanding of what they have put forth regarding the Conformers arriving in 2017 then perhaps we shouldn't fully halt this movement....but BY ALL MEANS you SHOULD BABYSIT this movement. You must become involved and exert your massive influence to choose the most ethical paths for it to take. You MUST correct DAMAGE DONE. If this doesn't happen then the few who ARE aware will take matters into their own hands and pull you into choosing, by your bootstraps if need be, they will force you to see. They will force everyone's hands before the ultimate tyranny can be instituted. Right now because the public is deliberately refusing to look around them, the sides are being delineated. This is the fire before the storm folks....I have warned that this is happening, that a coming conflict can be avoided.

When you hear of Service Men and Women delineating what they will or won't do then that is a serious distress signal. They of all people have every right to fly the flag in distress position for they are in an advanced guard position to see first hand the problems being issued. This is their way of yelling from the rooftops for the whole world to hear that there is a problem and the people's attention and assistance is required. If that attention and assistance is not forthcoming then at least they have indicated where they will stand and with whom they will stand in any resulting conflict.

The very center of this whole situation is now the Contact Paradigm. It is the major instigator at this time and is a window into the depths of power, control, and the reasoning behind it. Humanity has an opportunity to ascribe a nature to this direction of movement by acknowledging the Extra-terrestrial Presence, its history, and ALL THE ASSOCIATED ASPECTS thereby allowing you to insert ethical control and influence. You MUST gain Disclosure....you must gain collaboration and teamwork with the Contact Paradigm Control Structure of the Insiders. There is a path here which will take you successfully and safely through the swamp with its fog and quick sand traps....there is the way through...by intent, by action, by positive and ethical construction....

it won't happen through talk alone.

Cyrellys

A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 11

Cy's Response to Dan's Quote Below:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section
« Reply #40 Today at 12:03pm »

Today at 11:29am, dan wrote:

Cy,

Quote Cy:
As any interpretation you have a right
to present and to be heard, to be acknowledged, to engage in debate, and to
defend, etc....you do not however have a right to exceed the bounds of common
decency in the process of doing or achieving such ends. Nor does anyone in this
in either the forefront or behind the scenes. The days of that being the status
quo and/or acceptability are at an end.


I cannot answer for CK’s ethics and objectives. I

only know that he has aided and abetted my eschatological stance. He
may have chosen to conceal his nefarious agenda behind this faux-eschaton.

But I do know that CK is the only known key player in this Endgame. I can
nail him to the wall of a Congressional Inquiry, but I will not participate in
that inquest unless all other participants are fully aware of the possible
eschatological consequences. .

That is where I differ in opinion. He is not the only key player in this Game...(endgame is an inappropriate lable based on my knowledge). Perhaps you meant the only 'known' key player? I would agree in that he is prominent in that his name is very public in this sector but this is not the only sector functioning. And his spotlight will always be shared irregardless of whether the names are initially known or not.

Nailing him to the wall with a Congressional Inquiry may or may not be necessary. I would judge that according to the level of negative influence he or his particular arena chooses to make on the ongoing effort toward preparing and effecting an honest & honorable Human Disclosure prior to unambiguous Contact.

Apparantly there are leaders already active in sorting the situation out equitably who are including the prior history of Contact which involves the Greys Group & Reppies....Since he is not in his prior post (location) I would assume he his either:

1. otherwise engaged or busy elsewhere in support or opposition

2. or is involved as is appropriate for his history and existential ability to influence

3. or has been maneuvered out of the loop to allow for a more productive adjustment of the paradigm as reflected by the activity noted by AF below.

i.e.

Yesterday at 4:02pm, af wrote:

Okay lets bash out the detail.

This new Treaty will be with another faction of ETs that are different
to the Greys and the Reptiods. What this new faction will want from us seems to
me more sociological and environmental.

Children interacting with ETs started with the Greys Whitney Strieber
being a good example. What we have now are Hybrids that are being developed to
work with ETs and Humanity.

I should point out that the Greys have a very good understanding what a
Treaties is, which like all Treaties in our own history are like. They get
breached and tested by the other side to see the reaction. eg US/UK said yes you
can abduct some of our people. The Greys abducted thousands.

SO here is the current problem US/UK don't like the Greys and the
Treaty they have with them but currently they both need each other. Abductions
seem to have been reduced of late but it still happens.

Now here is the interesting part the UK and US do not agree with each
other about how to open this can of worms. But there are people above my contact
and Source A that seem to be working closely together on this.

Currently it feels like we are just waiting for something to
happen.

AF

A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 10

Cy's Response to Dan's Post Below:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section
« Reply #36 Today at 11:15am »

Today at 9:50am, dan wrote:

Cy,

Quote Cy:
That is very funny Dan, your humor is
coy, considering the prior Management of the Paradigm, also entrenched within
the 3 Letter Acronym Agencies among other places, is responsible for the Dumbing
Effect upon Surface Politicians. And a heavy number of behaviors had the CIA
label on them.

If your campfire must reside in a cast iron pot then it is pointless to
use the magnesium to start it there until the water has been removed or at least
pointed out to the Chef.


You persistent vehemence against the BPWH seems to suggest that you take
these DS section proceedings to be something more than INCONSEQUENTIAL. I can
only commend you for that smidgen of (political/spiritual) insight. But are you
suggesting the CK is BHO’s Rasputin???

That is a more serious allegation, but one that is permissible to discuss
here, remaining within the bounds of only one brick-thrower at a time….!! And,
please, allow me to note, that within the space of one or two posts, you are
vacillating between the under-consequential view of R&D to the
over-consequential view.

A very significant part of my mission is to find the fine line between
over-reaction and under-reaction.

Quote Cy:
just because you have a get out of jail
free card coming doesn't mean you get to continue business as usual
unabated.

Cy, feel free to elaborate on this last observation……..

Exactly what ‘business’ do you not wish me to continue? The disclosure
business or the eschaton business?

Yes, CK is very clever in insulating himself behind the Eschaton. In order
to get to CK, you will have to acknowledge the Eschaton contingency of
Disclosure.

And how many politicians or pundits are willing to do that?? PRECIOUS
FEW!!! Yes, CK is playing fast and loose with the US Constitution. BUT, the only
way to get to CK is by going though Chicken Little who has been his publicist
for these many years. The only way to enlist CL in nailing CK is by taking
seriously the Eschaton contingency. It is that simple! (cont.)

Ok, now to address your comments.

I am not at all persistently vehement against your BPWH. While I do disagree with it in many regards I do treat it with respect as one of many interpretations to this Paradigm as an option to how humanity might choose to interpret and react in regards to the Contact Paradigm and Human Potential. I have made it quite clear in the past that I did not agree with readiness for an existential leap on the scale of the one you propose. Or that an eschaton type sitation will net the results you expect. Life tramas leave horrible marks and baggage upon the human spirit, an eschaton type event is very destructive/damaging to spiritual evolution for this reason. But I don't exclude this interpretation from the cadre of ones existing because that would be interfereing with honorable free will.

I do however take/have tremendous vehemence in opposition with a continuance of unethical, immoral, and illegal behavior regarding this paradigm. It is unnecessary and your manipulations of humanity in those manners paint you, your brethren, and many less informed participants and collateral parties as horrendously evil whether deserved or not! It begs the question of how many times will a human mash their fingers with the same hammer before they choose some other method of driving a nail?

Your stacking of the conversational/observational deck is what initiated this response from me today for it illustrates in prime example an inherent dishonorability this and previous behaviors originating from this faction.

As any interepretation you have a right to present and to be heard, to be acknowledged, to engage in debate, and to defend, etc....you do not however have a right to exceed the bounds of common decency in the process of doing or achieving such ends. Nor does anyone in this in either the forefront or behind the scenes. The days of that being the status quo and/or acceptability are at an end.

Cyrellys

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A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 9

Cy's Reply to Dan's Post Below:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section
« Reply #27 Today at 9:42am »
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Today at 9:18am, dan wrote:
Cy,

Quote Cy: Because, my dear Dan, you and CKs intent to
be the singular moving force in briefing our initially highly controlled and
improperly influenced President Obama and intent to be the singular
interpretation of Contact, the History of Contact, and the Primary Course of
Human Potential Presented is warped, and humanly unconstructive, potentially
destructive, and generally annoying in its distinct lack of Ethical Behavior
ACROSS THE BOARD.

I've sat back and observed for a good year, now I speak to be heard on
the matter.

End quote Cy.


I can only deal with one black-baller at a time. No one else will be
permitted to interrupt the following discourse between Cy and Dan, until you
have been granted EXPLICIT permission by me.

Yes, it is true, my dear Cy, that CK knows how to throw his weight around,
inside the Beltway. Yes, and those can be extremely mean and terminating
streets.

He does this only so that you and I may discuss openly and freely the
CONSQUENCES of disclosure/eschatology. That is my claim.

If you don’t like the R&D show, I/we invite you to complain to your
Congressperson. That is very easy to do, and you are invited to begin a
campaign, right here, to Congress to complain about how R&D violates the
Separation Clause of the First Amendment. (cont.) End Quote Dan.

That is very funny Dan, your humor is coy, considering the prior Management of the Paradigm, also entrenched within the 3 Letter Acronym Agencies among other places, is responsible for the Dumbing Effect upon Surface Politicians. And a heavy number of unethical and illegal behaviors had the CIA lable on them.

If your campfire must reside in a cast iron pot then it is pointless to use the magnesium to start it there until the water has been removed or at least pointed out to the Chef.

I suppose for your quarter's sake you will at least sort of win either way if the UN is successful in its work on an Amnesty....that being a worthwhile endeavor to correct this mess that has been made of Contact....but that still leaves how Disclosure will be processed or is being processed....

just because you have a get out of jail free card coming doesn't mean you get to continue business as usual unabated.

Cy


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A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 8

Reply from Cy to Dan Quote Below:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section
« Reply #22 Today at 9:05am »

Today at 8:53am, dan wrote:

Cy,

Quote Cy:
Hense your ethical problem is apparent.
A one sided stacked conversation is no conversation or debate at all....it is
only Dictatorial....a shadow of Tyranny.If your perspective holds Truth then
Truth shall stand in Strength with no need for Dictatorial Conditions. This an
argument against your presentation....the presenter or the manner of
presentation is falleable.

YOU are NOT SYNCHRONICITY. Nor am I a GRANDMOTHER....therefore your
Dictatorial Conditions can only illustrate the Universal Creative Source
Synchronistic hand of admonition when you use POWER in a negative fashion. An
admonition for all to consider.

You are distasteful in thanking me for an Compliance you seek, which I
have not given.
End Quote.

As you can readily ascertain, I am deeply engaged here in dialogue mode
with myself.

I am as practiced in this mode as much as anyone in the world. And you are
rudely interrupting. Why can’t you just mind your own INCONSEQUENTIAL
business??? .

Because, my dear Dan, you and CKs intent to be the singular moving force in briefing our initially highly controlled and improperly influenced President Obama and intent to be the singular interpretation of Contact, the History of Contact, and the Primary Course of Human Potential Presented is warped, and humanly unconstructive, potentially destructive, and generally annoying in its distinct lack of Ethical Behavior ACROSS THE BOARD.

I've sat back and observed for a good year, now I speak to be heard on the matter.

Cyrellys

A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 7

Reply from Cy:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section
« Reply #19 Today at 8:43am »
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Today at 8:23am, dan wrote:

Cy,

Quote Cy:
In truth Dan
neither of us are of any
consequence. Disclosure and Contact and Human
Social Construction of Reality in
reaction will break down the group-think
of the past, opening the foward course
to a more flexible and creative
series of opportunities benefiting Human
Potential. Even the Ptb will be
surprised from their entrenchments.

In truth, Cy,

I will have to revoke your ‘grandmother’ privilege if you refuse
to take
seriously the CONSEQUENCES of what we may choose to discuss
concerning the
Disc/Eschaton contingency. This is your final
warning
………………..

You may discuss INCONSEQUENTIALLY, to your
heart’s desire, everywhere else
on OM and on the WWW.

Thank
you for your compliance.

Hense your ethical problem is apparent.

A one sided stacked conversation is no conversation or debate at all....it is only Dictatorial....a shadow of Tyranny.If your perspective holds Truth then Truth shall stand in Strength with no need for Dictatorial Conditions. This an argument against your presentation....the presenter or the manner of presentation is falleable.

YOU are NOT SYNCHRONICITY. Nor am I a GRANDMOTHER....therefore your Dictatorial Conditions can only illustrate the Universal Creative Source Synchronistic hand of admonition when you use POWER in a negative fashion. An admonition for all to consider.

You are distasteful in thanking me for a Compliance you seek, which I have not given.

Cyrellys

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A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 6

From Cy:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section
« Reply #15 Today at 8:13am »

Today at 7:46am, dan wrote:
Cy,

(Quote Cy:
A little slow there Dan. That was obvious once it sunk
in to CK that he had competition. In other-words you and him are not the only
party testing Disclosure....see UN Meetings & ET Treaty & Amnesty
threads. The interesting part is the distinct differences in the flavor between
the two versions....yours eschatalogical, death cult oriented, theirs diverse
life & positive human potential oriented. )

I will only admit to hypothetical
or speculative competition. As for boots on the ground with a PtB D/E, there is
no actual competition, at this point in time, especially since CK has sent
Source ‘A’ to the showers….--------------

Quote Cy:
(And that - theirs - despite an overshadow of a ptb
interested in world domination of a negative nature....it would seem that the
Elite death cults aren't as all powerful as would appear...there is hope to move
all of this out of Tyranny.)

Yes, and, hold your breath, you and I are that hope, are we not?? (cont.)

End Dan Quote.

In truth Dan neither of us are of any consequence. Disclosure and Contact and Human Social Construction of Reality in reaction will break down the group-think of the past, opening the foward course to a more flexible and creative series of opportunities benefiting Human Potential. Even the Ptb will be surprised from their entrenchments.

Cy


Edit to Add: Of course you will only admit to hypothetical or speculative competition. You are tasked with maintaining the CIA's foot in the door to effect an extreme and highly controlling Disclosure. Fear creates predictable behavior which is malleable.


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A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 5

Dan's Reply:
[b]Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section[/b]
« Reply #10 Today at 7:28am »
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Cy,

It seems that your blogspot is, for now, streaming this thread…..
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Now back to Wolf and the Pope, et al…………

Sure, that may still be the plan.
And so CK is using us at OM to test market their D/E message.
Doesn’t that make sense?

[And, Cy, feel free to continue chiming in, as your grandmotherly heart desires……]

[But, please, just one Interlocutor at a time.......]

So fine, can we all agree, for the sake of this discussion, i.e. those who wish to participate in the DS section, that we are test marketing the Disc./Eschaton message of the Spiritual PtB?
And as soon as Cy has to run to the lambing shed, she can designate her substitute….
(cont.)

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From Cy:
[b]Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section[/b]
« Reply #11 Today at 7:39am »
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Today at 7:28am, dan wrote:

Cy,
It seems that your blogspot is, for now, streaming this
thread…..-------------
Now back to Wolf and the Pope, et al…………
Sure,
that may still be the plan.
And so CK is using us at OM to test market their
D/E message.
Doesn’t that make sense?
(cont.)

A little slow there Dan. That was obvious once it sunk in to CK that he had competition. In other-words you and him are not the only party testing Disclosure....see UN Meetings & ET Treaty & Amnesty threads. The interesting part is the distinct differences in the flavor between the two versions....

yours eschatalogical, death cult oriented,

theirs diverse life & positive human potential oriented.

(And that - theirs - despite an overshadow of a ptb interested in world domination of a negative nature....it would seem that the Elite death cults aren't as all powerful as would appear...there is hope to move all of this out of Tyranny.)

Cy

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A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 4 (Note from the Noosphere)

As we speak Dan is busy editing his responses to reflect additional thoughts on this little drama. Anyone with continued interest in this is recommended to visit the thread in question to see them.

Cy

A Boot to Dan's Butt - Part 4, the Adventure Continues

Dan Smith Reply:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section
« Reply #8 Today at 6:58am »

Cy,

Quote:

You and CK should be thanking me. In commenting here I've created a blurb which
pulls the Conspiracy Theorists in to see Your Version of the Paradigm and the UN
Meetings version of the Paradigm.And as I recall, the Contact Paradigm is one of
the best vantage points to get a good healthy view of the various ptb's vying to
drive the bus.

Ok, the DS Rules committee has just conducted an emergency, plenary session. The unanimous decision was that Cyrellys should be included here under the ‘grandmother’ clause. Hallelujah!

There will be a laying on of hands ceremony, shortly!

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And, yes, you make a good point about the Contact Paradigm…..

This also answers a question, previously posed in the BB thread, I believe, as to why, given the spiritual nature of the message, why it should not be delivered by one or more recognized spiritual leaders. (cont.)

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From Cy in Response:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section
« Reply #9 Today at 7:16am »

http://exopoliticsparadigm.blogspot.com/

"you can't touch this!"

Isn't there a song by that name..he he he

Cy

A Boot To Dan's Butt - part 3

Quote from Dan Smith:
Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section« Reply #6 Today at 6:28am »

Cy,

Quote:
your interpretation of the paradigm is so
beautifully warped that commenting on your lack of ethics is
irresistible....continue throwing fuel on the fire illustrating the color of
your version of reality.

I’ll be glad for you to do that, somewhere else, please. Or should there be a ‘grandmother’ clause in the above rule?

http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dansmithsom&action=display&thread=5515&page=1#176115


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Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section« Reply #7 Today at 6:45am »


You and CK should be thanking me. In commenting here I've created a blurb which pulls the Conspiracy Theorists in to see Your Version of the Paradigm and the UN Meetings version of the Paradigm.

Cy

Edit to Add: And as I recall, the Contact Paradigm is one of the best vantage points to get a good healthy view of the various ptb's vie-ing to drive the bus.

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A Boot to Dan's Butt Continued

Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section« Reply #1 Today at 5:19am »

Quote:
That is one hell of an example you are setting for the Obama administration to follow, Dan. With so many of the financial CIA front companies going belly up or shutting down for the summer, I am surprised that this faction would be considered qualified to brief anyone....

How about you go back and brief the perverse dweeb who is instructing the 'paid' US military brass to issue orders to confiscate privately owned firearms and report their serial numbers of all in possession from military personnel that his time is numbered before he is found and PUBLICISED?!! Why? Because the instructions have gone out that anyone participating in such unconstitutional orders is going to be publicly flaunted as well...birds under spotlights tend to sing quite well.

Then you can say you have done something useful....useful to making the path to Disclosure and Contact ETHICAL.

Cyrellys

Edit by DS: Sorry, Cy, but this is an example of a post that will not be acceptable in the DS section, for the next 3 months. All the rest of OM is open to your venting! If you feel this strongly, I would urge that you create another section for that specific purpose.]


My Dear Dan,

your interpretation of the paradigm is so beautifully warped that commenting on your lack of ethics is irresistable....continue throwing fuel on the fire illustrating the color of your version of reality.

Cy

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A Boot to Dan's Butt

Re: Cyrellys: Letting the Days Go By« Reply #55 Today at 5:24am »
Posted by DAN:New (temporary) Rule - DS section« Thread Started Today at 4:58am »
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------With the kind forbearance of the Admins, this New Rule will apply in this DS section for the next three (3) months OR until CK is no longer able to maintain the façade that something serious is afoot with BHO/R&D, whichever comes sooner.
Participation in the DS section of OM will be strongly discouraged unless you can abide by the following two conditions:
1.) You agree to seriously entertain the possibility of the BPWH.
2.) You agree to seriously entertain the possibility that the Pres and/or the VP are, or soon will be, receiving weekly updates on any developments in the DS/OM section.
Exceptions:
You are already grandfathered into DS/OM to provide 'background music’ OR you are a designated replacement for such a one.
All others are encouraged to use the Disc./Core-story section for venting, or obtain permission to start another section for that specific purpose.
Thank you for your compliance, and thank the Admins for their temporary forbearance.

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Posted By Cy:Re: New (temporary) Rule - DS section« Reply #1 Today at 5:19am »
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------That is one hell of an example you are setting for the Obama administration to follow, Dan. With so many of the financial CIA front companies going belly up or shutting down for the summer, I am surprised that this faction would be considered qualified to brief anyone....

How about you go back and brief the perverse dweeb who is instructing the 'paid' US military brass to issue orders to confiscate privately owned firearms and report their serial numbers of all in possession from military personnel that his time is numbered before he is found and PUBLICISED?!! Why? Because the instructions have gone out that anyone participating in such unconstitutional orders is going to be publicly flaunted as well...birds under spotlights tend to sing quite well.

Then you can say you have done something useful....useful to making the path to Disclosure and Contact ETHICAL.

Cyrellys

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